This week, Mike and Rick talk about Steve Jobs, smart kids, and the Japanese. We've got an interview with the AFT's Michele McLaughlin, and Education News of the Weird is either disgusting or delicious--we're not sure. Click here to listen through our website and view past editions. To download the show as an mp3 to your computer, click here (no iPod required--this link will play through any music software on your computer, including Windows Media Player or RealPlayer). To subscribe to this podcast, or to get more information about how podcasts work, click here.