A growing number of parents, educators, and school administrators are calling for a local "opt-out" from state tests and accountability systems. Mike Petrilli, Flypaper's own editor, is one of them; he is convinced that there are some schools, perhaps schools that are trying to do something different, that serve a unique population, or are high performing, that could benefit from the opt-out. After floating the opt-out idea in an exchange with Deborah Meier over at Education Week, he tested it out on some fellow ed reformers—and was told his opt-out was a cop-out.
So yesterday, the Thomas B. Fordham Insitute and Democrats for Education Reform (DFER) cohosted a lively discussion on the opt-out/cop-out, featuring Fordham's Mike Petrilli, DFER's Charles Barone, the Center on Reinventing Public Education's Robin Lake, the National Council of La Raza's Delia Pompa, and the National Association of Charter School Authorizers's Nelson Smith, with Bellwether's Andy Smarick moderating.
Twitter was alive with commentary. Here's the play-by-play.
Mike got it started by making a shocking revelation:
#Breaking: @MichaelPetrilli is a strong supporter of #CommonCore. #OptOrCop
— Fordham Institute (@educationgadfly) July 25, 2013
Then he outlined his idea:
@MichaelPetrilli would allow schools of choice to set their own rigorous standards. Affluent suburban schools too #OptOrCop
— Charlie Cummings (@CummingsCharles) July 25, 2013
Let's "let off some political steam" by letting 10% of schools opt out of state tests. - @MichaelPetrilli #OptorCop
— Marc Porter Magee (@marcportermagee) July 25, 2013
Charter school test scores on state tests aren't great but their college going rates are "through the roof" -@MichaelPetrilli #optorcop
— Ashley Inman (@ashleyemilia) July 25, 2013
Moderator Andy Smarick pushed it over to Charles Barone, but not without a little commentary of his own:
@smarick asks @CharlesBarone what's wrong with @MichaelPetrilli 10% idea at #OptorCop
— DFER (@DFER_News) July 25, 2013
The other panelists are skeptical.
"There's nothing in policy preventing schools from 'opting up' right now" @charlesbarone #optorcop
— NACSA (@QualityCharters) July 25, 2013
@RbnLake: I'm afraid that allowing schools to define their own accountability systems is a slippery slope #OptOrCop— Allie Kimmel (@allie_kimmel) July 25, 2013
"Schools can always present some reason why they shouldn't be closed." - @RbnLake #OptorCop
— Marc Porter Magee (@marcportermagee) July 25, 2013
Kids should always come first!! RT @marcportermagee: "Who are we worried about? Politicians or kids?" - Delia Pompa #OptorCop
— GLEP (@GLEP_MI) July 25, 2013
@NelsonSmith60 says with #CommonCore may diffuse some of the anti-testing sentiment #OptorCop
— DFER (@DFER_News) July 25, 2013
.@smarick: I have never seen an excellent school serving kids with lousy standardized test scores in reading and math #OptOrCop
— Allie Kimmel (@allie_kimmel) July 25, 2013
Mike got back up swinging:
.@MichaelPetrilli: "if states just want to look at student progress over time, we should allow that" #optorcop
— Ashley Inman (@ashleyemilia) July 25, 2013
"We need to be just as worried about mislabeling schools at the top as schools at the bottom." - @MichaelPetrilli #OptorCop
— Marc Porter Magee (@marcportermagee) July 25, 2013
Point by @MichaelPetrilli on making good schools look bad w/ tests true in OH for schools specializing in learning differences. #OptorCop
— OAIS (@OHIndepSchools) July 25, 2013
Charles Barone was full of witty comebacks:
@CharlesBarone - Learning algebra = not fun #optorcop
— DFER (@DFER_News) July 25, 2013
The deal was get rid of input measures in exchange for outcome measures. Now what? No measures? - @CharlesBarone #OptorCop
— Marc Porter Magee (@marcportermagee) July 25, 2013
Says @CharlesBarone: When you see a doctor and cholesterol is OK, doctor doesn't say "Great, come back in 10 years" #OptOrCop
— Pamela Tatz (@wishenough) July 25, 2013
The money moment:
Someone asks the teachers in the room to raise their hands; and almost the whole room does. That's #edreform! #OptorCop
— Michelle Gininger (@mgininger) July 25, 2013
So did Mike convince anyone to give his idea a shot?
Haha! RT @wishenough: When @smarick asks for a show of hands from the "Mike-is-crazy" camp: entire Fordham staff raises hands #optorcop
— Ashley Inman (@ashleyemilia) July 25, 2013
In the end,
Too many good points being made to quote. Just tune in to #OptorCop : http://t.co/s27xH6TbQD
— Tania de Sa Campos (@taniadsc) July 25, 2013
So did Mike convince you? Watch the event and let us know!