Rick and Mike snuggle around the microphone (“Can you not touch my leg?”) as they discuss Arne Duncan’s recent ed school speeches, Deborah Gist’s working within the system in Rhode Island, and the relationship between New York State’s charter cap and charter quality. Then Amber tells us about a new Public Agenda survey of teachers and Rate that Reform gets serious (about New Haven). Click here to listen through our website and peruse past editions. To download the show as an mp3 to your computer, click here (no iPod required--this link will play through any music software on your computer, including Windows Media Player or RealPlayer).