This week, Mike and Rick talk about educating through humiliation, removing poor kids from good schools, and why grades don't matter. Checker Finn and his granddaughter Emma stop by to talk pre-K and such, and Education News of the Weird is Too Close To the Sun. Click here to listen through our website and peruse past editions. To download the show as an mp3 to your computer, click here (no iPod required--this link will play through any music software on your computer, including Windows Media Player or RealPlayer). To subscribe to this podcast, or to get more information about how podcasts work, click here.